MST Meeting 5

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2015-01-28 Per Undén



UERRA MST meeting 5, 28 January 2015



      1. Present:

Per Undén, Dale Barker, Manola Brunet, Andrea Kaiser-Weiss, Albert Klein Tank

      1. Agenda

  1. Action points from MST 4.

  2. Plans for the User Workshop in WP8

  3. Periodic Report summaries

  4. Insertion into observation archive

  5. Archiving parameters and user requirements

  6. Copernicus services and discussions

  7. Need for more telephone meetings and contacts between WPs

  8. Next meeting



  1. Action points from MST3

Per to update our PO with delays of the Deliverables (Univ. Bonn).

This was done during the meeting the day before with the ESAB and the PO.

  1. Plan for the WP8 User interaction Workshop

The timing and possible colocation of the WS with next GA was discussed. The first question is how to find users of the products who are willing to be active and give feedback. In EURO4M a few users have been attending some of the GA:s but we aim for more than this.

The RA producers have had data requests and use of the data and there are much more users of E-OBS. These institutes will asked about users. Prior contacts should be taken before a WS, possibly even tele or video conferences. It is more important to engage users than meeting the deadline of the deliverable and this can be discussed with our PO.

  1. Periodic Report summaries

The Coordinator needs the WP summaries from each WP leader latest by 9 February. The whole report must be ready for 25 February and the Coordinator need to write the Publishable summary. The connections and dependencies between WPs will be emphasised in these summaries.

Action: Each WP leader will write a short summary of their WP activities (from the draft that was sent out earlier) and provide them for the Scientific Periodic Report for 9 February.

  1. Insertion of rescued observation into ECMWF ODB

Due to the discussions about the archiving of RA outputs there had not been time to discuss the observations it in a subgroup as planned. But Phil did have some discussion with Manuel and Hans Hersbach is contacted to provide guidelines how to do this. There are other data rescue efforts as well, not only UERRA and ERA-CLIM. We should probably have one single contact point in UERRA (like UEA now for the EURO4M data). Action: Phil will work out a guideline with ECMWF within 3 months. Manola will check with Phil.

  1. Archiving of RA outputs

There had been intensive discussion about the definition of the RA outputs that are to be archived in ECMWF MARS following Richard's presentation. Following the WP3 WS at DWD there have been extensive exchange and the table of parameters has evolved. It is both for evaluation in WP3 (some parameters marked in the table) but also for archiving for data services and user products in WP4. The definition which variables will be stored in Mars (either surface fields, model levels, pressure levels, height levels) should be reviewed for both WP3 and WP4 purposes. On one hand, users should be given as much as useful information as possible. On the other hand, fields are very large (especially when including 3D forecasts) , and variables are relatively numerous (compared to other projects like TIGGE LAM) which causes workload on Manuel Fuentes / Richard Mladek.

DWD will send it out again and now also to the MST for checking. The archived output should correspond to the table of ECVs that EEA expects and the one the C3S will support. This correspondence will be added, and the user interest as polled in CORE-CLIMAX added (by DWD, during February).

  1. Copernicus service discussions

It is expected that the calls for C3S components will be for components of UERRA, like RA or Quality and evaluation or dissemination and roughly involve one WP at a time. The WP leaders will maintain contacts within their WPs in order to have a common approach to ECMWF.

  1. Need for more frequent MST contacts

There is a need to have frequent contacts both to follow up the archiving issues and to coordinate the C3S approach.

  1. Next meeting

A telephone conference will be arranged at the end of February or first days of March (before the CLIPC WS?)

  1. Action points

1. Each WP leader will write a short summary of their WP activities and provide them for the Scientific Periodic Report for 9 February.

2. Phil will work out a guideline with ECMWF within 3 months. Manola will check with Phil.

3. Andrea to identify the decisions needed before finalizing the RA output definitions (end of Feb).